Star Trek 2009

[TWG 0]

Just saw the movie last night, I think it was better than the two Star Wars prequels Lucas made, I haven't seen a really great stand alone Sci Fi movie in a long time, so this was a refreshing change for me. I highly recommend it to you all.

Below is a discussion for people who have seen it, it's in spoiler tags because i don't want to spoil it OMG.

I thought that the romance between Spock and Ahora was abit unnecessary, however it did add another emotional dimension to Spock's complex thought process. I also loved the Hoth-like planet too, though I missed the part where Kirk fought the giant snow...thing that there was in the trailers! I walked out and had to talk to my mom about how much longer it was going to be. Leo Nimoy also did a great job portraying older Spock, and I like to think that there are actually two Spocks in the actual Star Trek series filmed in the 60s. XD Too bad they couldn't do more with each other.

All in all, a great movie, definitely a Must-Own on DVD/Blu Ray.

You didn't spell Uhura right.

Edited May 11, 2009 by archer9234

[Joe Statler 0]

Going to watch it tomorrow with my dad. Will post my thoughts then.

I haven't seen a really great stand alone Sci Fi movie in a long time

Serenity was great, whether or not you had seen Firefly before. I showed the movie to my brother-in-law (who had never seen Firefly) and he loved it. I then showed him the Firefly episodes.

[iMaster 0]

So it is worth watching?

[OoiueBTTF 0]

yeah, i watched it on saturday

DEFINATLY gonna get it on DVD

I thought the some bits were a bit wrong

[Orgcon 11]

Is that the film Directed by JJ. Abrams? Cause I though that wasn't out till later in the year!?

...Well maybe over here in the yUK anyway

Edited May 11, 2009 by Orgcon

[♠Grim♂ Reaper 1666◙ 17]

techically the 2 prequels were meant to be made first but the most exciting ones were choose first

[Microman 85]

I saw this movie ^^ I found it very cool !!

[Joe Statler 0]

I just saw it and was surprised that it was better than my expectations. I also saw X-Men Origins: Wolverine and found that it was by far the best out of all the other films.

I like to think that there are actually two Spocks in the actual Star Trek series filmed in the 60s. XD Too bad they couldn't do more with each other.

They explained that the

timeline was changed because Spock and Neo were thrown/sucked back in time. So the original series was basically the original timeline and the movie is an altered timeline/reality.

An example of this is in the series ENTERPRISE, where they find borg drones and wreckage of a borg sphere in Antarctica, although in the original history there weren't any drones there to be found. The reason they found the drones is because Picard and the NCC-1701E crew came back in time and blew it up (Star Trek: First Contact).

Edited May 11, 2009 by Statler

[archer9234 20]

People consider that the worst ep of ent . All because Phlox defeated the nano probes with a stupid virus.

[Joe Statler 0]

I can think of one worse than that. The one where Hoshi is stuck on a planet with some telepathic alien that won't let her leave. He lured her there claiming he had information on the Xindi, but really he was just lonely.

[archer9234 20]

Yeah but that didn't break any setup laws in the universe .

[BTTF2DeloreanFan 0]

I loved this film very much and its a very well done movie that I would buy when it comes out. So, thats my opinion. ^^

[archer9234 20]

I'll buy it if Paramount doesn't pull the single disc crap and release the special edition right off the bat.

[♠Grim♂ Reaper 1666◙ 17]

if they do just download it for free

[Joe Statler 0]

I'll buy it if Paramount doesn't pull the single disc crap and release the special edition right off the bat.

There have been movies that were released single disc and Special edition at the same time, but I don't understand why.

[archer9234 20]

Simple. There are people that don't care for bonus features and just want the movie. So they make that version. What I meant was what Paramount did with the Nemesis DVD. Instead of just releasing the special DVD set, they released the single disc and waited 2 years for the SE one.

[Joe Statler 0]

I wouldn't know, I have the VHS of Star Trek: Nemesis.

[OoiueBTTF 0]

My dad has ALL star trek movies (apart from the new one of course), in one of those big DVD boxes

Besides, the First Contact bit could have been a predetermined paradox cos zefram says:

"You think I wanna go to the stars? I dont even like to fly! I take trains!"

lol

[archer9234 20]

FC wasn't a pre paradox. Because starfleet never found the Borg sphere, in the original timeline. Or Data would of recalled events from the database. The only time a pre paradox happened was in Time's Arrow. When Picard found Data's damaged head, in the cave. Voyager's Future's End doesn't count, because they changed history again, avoiding Voyager being blown up.

[OoiueBTTF 0]

i supposed yeah

but it could be a pre paradox cos how did the borg find Earth?

yeah from assimilated worlds but how did they know where to look?

besides, what zefram says makes sense for it to be a pre paradox

[archer9234 20]

In the original timeline it was Q's fault. He's the one who sent the Enterprise to them, in season 2 (TNG). In the changed timeline after FC, the surviving Borg, from the sphere, sent a signal at the end of Regeneration (ENT). The new movies, after their storyline, can easily correct the changes in history, at some focal point. Just like how Nero changed the timeline with Kirk's father.

[OoiueBTTF 0]

i know, but in Voyager, the episode Scorpion was at the end of the year First Contact was done. EDIT: I mean that Janeway says:

"Since Q flung the Enterprise 7000 light years into the path of that first cube"

This means the timeline hasn't been altered, but if you look closely at her display it says:

"Borg Database Stardate 9237"

Summot like that. Aka, the time of Kirk which suggests that both the timeline was altered, and it was a pre paradox

I mean timeline wise, it was set simatanius to DS9, and in 'In Purgatory's Shadow' (DS9), the episode where the Dominion finally come throught the Wormhole, Sisko says:

"..and due to the recent borg attack, starfleet's spread pretty thin"

aka. First Contact.

But I do agree with you archer, its just I like thinking that it was a pre paradox cos im fond of them

It just, I believe time has already happened, just not for anybody yet. (I.e. the end of the World has already happened, just, we haven't caught up with the time yet)

Edited May 14, 2009 by OoiueBTTF

[archer9234 20]

There's another mistake in Voyager. 7 of 9 knew about FC. She was split form the collective BEFORE FC was made.

[OoiueBTTF 0]

Actually, First Contact happened on stardate 508??.? or summot

Seven of Nine was split on stardate 51003

So she should have known

then again, how did she know what happened in the past?

[archer9234 20]

Because of dumb logic lol.