Dave27 1 Report post Posted January 6, 2010 I found this quote on another site and thought it might make an interesting discussion: "01/05/09 @Kaiser-Machead: What bothered me with III is that they already beat MadDog Tannen, so what's the rush? They had plenty of time to properly fix the delorian." They could of just hung around a bit so doc could possibly find a better (or safer) way to time travel and spend some more time with Clara . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
archer9234 20 Report post Posted January 6, 2010 (edited) Movie logic VS real world logic. If you argue this, a lot of worse things can be called out. Like why doesn't the Delorean have a security system so advanced, from the future, so far away, it's impossible to hack. Or why doesn't Doc or Marty just leave the state. Why doesn't Marty pull a Bill and Ted. Forcing paradoxes. "gotta remember to go back and stop old biff." The list goes on and on. Edited January 6, 2010 by archer9234 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Statler 0 Report post Posted January 6, 2010 or why didn't doc do everything his damn self. He could have gone up to old marty and say, "hey tomorrow your son's going to get arrested, don't let him leave the house." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iMaster 0 Report post Posted January 6, 2010 (edited) Doc is too afraid of paradoxes. He wasn't around after that monday, therefore he did not want history to remember him after that day. Look: Doc is killed or have vanished without a trace. In 70 years that alerts Marty and the younger Doc to come looking for him. He is saved, in order to trigger Marty's trip he has to "stay dead" (although he now won't find the tombstone, but who knows, maybe he will find some other tombstone connected to Doc, perhaps Marshall Strickland), he has to disappear, or Marty won't have a reason to go back, therefore all of this is undone and it starts again. TIME PARADOX! SHAZAM! Edited January 6, 2010 by iMaster Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daangelo29 5 Report post Posted January 6, 2010 There are two reasons I can provide: 1. They rushed to catch up for the train and "borrow" it. Yeah, they have the locomotive and all, so why wouldn't they just wait for a little longer to re-check things like if they got the distance right, how Doc should hop from the train to the DeLorean safely, etc.? You may also wanna ask this question, too: Wouldn't you think those people who boarded the train would just do nothing about what just happened? 2. Doc wanted the time machine destroyed because of all the trouble it made. Logically, staying in 1885 would just cause more trouble -- the most likely thing that was in Doc's mind at that time. @iMaster: Doc may have probably put a fake tombstone there, making sure Marty from 1955 sees it and travels back to 1885 to rescue him. After all, he remained in 1885 up to 1895 when presumably he finished the Jules Verne Train. He had more than enough time to have the fake tombstone made and placed in the graveyard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iMaster 0 Report post Posted January 6, 2010 Possibly. Reminds me of Doctor Who The character of Sally Sparrow rips of some wallpaper in an abandoned house and the writing under it says "BEWARE...", she proceeds to rip it off - "OF THE WEEPING ANGELS", continuing to rip it off - "OH, AND DUCK", she is clearly confused - "NO, REALLY, DUCK... SALLY SPARROW", Teehee, scary music - "DUCK NOW!". As she does a stone hits the place where her head just was. "HELLO FROM THE DOCTOR 1979" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
archer9234 20 Report post Posted January 6, 2010 (edited) Or the tombstone doesn't affect space time, like the effect cancels out the cause, when biff created 1985a. Technically Marty created 1985A. B is Jr. not accepting Griff. Biff created C. Then movie 3 created D/E/F. Death and alive versions of Clara. Plus Marty variation. And the ending of 3 could be H. The elimination of B-F and keeping A. Then G line before he prevented the car accident. Since Marty changed his future. Edited January 6, 2010 by archer9234 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
archer9234 20 Report post Posted January 6, 2010 (edited) Okay. An easier way to avoid BTTF 2 all together. Have Marty play his older self, and make Jr. go home, before he enters the cafe. Marty 1985: "Hey, jr. I know whats going on in there. You're not gonna do it. Get your butt home this instant!". Future Marty would return home hours later, after the ripple effect. Remembering what he did in 1985. Everything would of gone faster. And would of prevented Jennifer being found in the alley way. Edited January 6, 2010 by archer9234 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RG 1 Report post Posted January 6, 2010 That's another advert-long movie XD They create problems so they can make long enough movie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
archer9234 20 Report post Posted January 6, 2010 We all know that. We're just saying, to a realistic stand point. There where a lot of better ways in handling stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
♠Grim♂ Reaper 1666◙ 17 Report post Posted January 6, 2010 theres loads of points all over the train Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flux Capacitor 0 Report post Posted January 6, 2010 @Kaiser-Machead: What bothered me with III is that they already beat MadDog Tannen, so what's the rush? They had plenty of time to properly fix the delorian." They couldn't fix it because 1. It would take a month to fix, and Marty is very impatient, after the gas tank blew up. 2. The DeLorean in the cave couldn't be fixed because it needed replacement parts from 1947. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
♠Grim♂ Reaper 1666◙ 17 Report post Posted January 6, 2010 @Kaiser-Machead: What bothered me with III is that they already beat MadDog Tannen, so what's the rush? They had plenty of time to properly fix the delorian." They could of just hung around a bit so doc could possibly find a better (or safer) way to time travel and spend some more time with Clara . dont forget it wasnt that hard to break outa jail in the wild western culture Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hscitpe 6 Report post Posted January 6, 2010 (edited) They couldn't fix it because 1. It would take a month to fix, and Marty is very impatient, after the gas tank blew up. 2. The DeLorean in the cave couldn't be fixed because it needed replacement parts from 1947. You always seem start with something intelligent, then f**k it up and prove that you have no clue what you're talking about. The DeLorean's gas tank didn't explode, Marty ripped the fuel line open escaping from the Indians, the Fuel Injection Manifold exploded, go watch the damn movie. I say that it really wasn't as serious as Doc portrayed it, at any time AFTER that specific train left, it's bound to be that another train would pull through Hill Valley Station, but I guess Doc wanted to get out of 1885 really quickly so they didn't run the risk of creating a paradox, Edited January 6, 2010 by hscitpe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
♠Grim♂ Reaper 1666◙ 17 Report post Posted January 6, 2010 paradox to the future!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flux Capacitor 0 Report post Posted January 6, 2010 You always seem start with something intelligent, then f**k it up and prove that you have no clue what you're talking about. The DeLorean's gas tank didn't explode, Marty ripped the fuel line open escaping from the Indians, the Fuel Injection Manifold exploded, go watch the damn movie. It doesn't prove that I'm a dumbass because I made one mistake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RG 1 Report post Posted January 6, 2010 Yet all other mistakes do Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flux Capacitor 0 Report post Posted January 6, 2010 Yet all other mistakes do It's funny how you tell me I'M an as**ole Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hscitpe 6 Report post Posted January 7, 2010 You're not an Ahole, just an idiot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flux Capacitor 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2010 You're not an Ahole, just an idiot Because? Really if you're gonna try to start an argument, at least find a good reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hscitpe 6 Report post Posted January 7, 2010 Thinking the DeLorean's fuel tank exploded Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flux Capacitor 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2010 Thinking the DeLorean's fuel tank exploded Wow you're an as**ole I watched the third movie a while ago so I tried to do it by memory, so don't go all douchebag on me because I made a mistake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dragon King 15 Report post Posted January 7, 2010 Alright you guys take a chill pill. @HSCITPE: Just because he made a mistake doesn't mean you can go all ape s**t on him saying he's an idiot. I'm sure you've made plenty of idiotic mistakes in your lifetime. We all have. Like I melted plastic in an oven not too long ago. That's way more idiotic than not being correct about a scene in a movie. So give him a break. @FLUXY: Even if it kills you, try not to retaliate to immature comments. It only makes you just as immature. If you don't like what they say about you then report it to a moderator rather than fight back. I'm giving both of you a chance. There will be an action taken if you both continue fighting. Now I want you both to apologize to each other Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BTTF Forever 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2010 you guys got told!!! LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
♠Grim♂ Reaper 1666◙ 17 Report post Posted January 7, 2010 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites