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bluespace88

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  1. yeah, but thats for large scale nuclear power. We're only talking about 1 pellet here. And Doc's nuclear system is the very definitiion of a miniature nuclear plant with enough lead to prevent the radiation from leaking and infecting the occupants inside. Even then, it doesn't explain why the delorean died on Nov 12 1955 way after it spent its plutonium. I doubt the spark plug needs cleaning. It only had 33k miles on the odometer.

    http://www.outatime.it/ritornoalfuturo/fra...x.php?cs=180100

    Also to note, Doc's system leaves no nuclear waste, therefore that radiation is like nil.


  2. radiation is not just a simple on off switch. The effects of radiation would last quite a while and would effect the delorean. But thats besides the point.

    The main point is that radiation is more of a biological hazard, rather than material. What the radiation from plutonium does is mutate the cells in the body by exposing them to high gamma rays, which necessitates both marty and doc needing the nuclear suits when handling the plutonium. Sure, a high amount of radiation would be hazardous, but only a real large amount. 1 pellet is not a lot in nuclear terms. Plus, that amount isn't that significant compared to what nuclear power plants are churning out, but again, the main point is that radiation is hazardous to biological beings and not metals, fuels, or electricity (I mean, we use it to make electricity).

    Also, that plutonium reactor is well sealed, otherwise Doc wouldn't trust the both of them taking off their suits after filling it up. And we don't see a mutated Doc at the end of bttf3.


  3. Doubt it. It died after Marty came back from 1955 anyway. Sooner than it did in 1955. Not to mention, it was fine after being retrieved, only to die again at the start line. DK's theoretical effect (its def not ripple, thats completely different) holds no chronological sense if the effects were indeed rippling. I still maintain it was a problem with the engine and not time travel effecting it. There is no logical sense in when the delorean dies if it had your effect applied, unlike how it was logical that Marty was the last to be erased because he was the last to be born. It then gets even more confusing using your effect if you consider the 2015 modifications, none of which ever failed.

    In fact, the only thing that ever failed and not due to external causes was the engine and time circuits, the time circuits of which Doc seemed to know the problem and would have fixed it when he got back (which he didn't). I don't know, but that does not sound like a DK effect to me, and sounds more like engine trouble, backed up even more by the fact that the engine wasn't that great, and cutting out of the 4th wall, the production team had problems with it too that they had to swap it out.

    I mean, really, DK effect due to material being different? Please do enlighten me to a part of the movie that says explicitly or implicitly that this happens. If you do, use it to explain the engine dying in all 3 situations, and explain why they happened at that time. I'd like to be proven wrong.


  4. Well, going back to your first argument, since we're getting lost 4th dimensionally, the flux capacitor argument was made in reference to bttf1. The bttf3 comment is to be taken separately, but for the time being, lets focus on your statement that:

    When the time machine went from 1985 to 1955, it experienced a ripple effect that caused the engine to die.

    I countered that if that was the case, the flux capacitor would experience the same effect, and would be more sensitive to it because it needs to be precise to hit a specific date.

    Lets add some 4th dimensional thinking to that. Tech is not that advanced, how advanced tech is does not correspond to time. It is the individual molecules in the flux capacitor and other equipment that correspond to time. No matter if it had artifacts from the stone age, or current electronics, all those molecules and electrons have the same age, so if your argument was to hold true, when it went back to 1955, every single component would experience the same fatigue.

    Of course, now that I say that, I realize that it does not hold true for Marty, who was born later and was being erased later, so maybe thats not the case. But then if we're using that statement, the Delorean would have experienced problems later because it was made way after Marty was born.

    Ehh, I'll think about it later. Dinner's ready.


  5. That prv engine was a piece of crap anyway

    And dk, if what you say is true, it would cause huge problems because the flux capacitor is the most sensitive equipment on the car. And then in bttf3, the car would have even bigger problems for being 100 years outatime (excuse the pun)


  6. its a debate, lol. Opinions are meant to be countered, and mine will probably be countered in some way. I'm just listing facts to back up why Doc would not choose to reenter in that manner on purpose. There is no right answer, unless Bob Gale or Robert Zemeckis say so.

    As for 1955, it was more of an engine problem with the Delorean rather than a purposeful intervention by Doc. I'm sure he'd like it to keep driving after he time travels.


  7. Don't make assumptions if you know very little about cars.

    1 the van was no where near the direction of where the delirean was pointed. Doc pulled Marty away from the van.

    2 stalling an engine is bad for it. It can easily damage the engine if doe too often and wear out the clutch

    3 the way the delorean stopped is uncontrolled. Spinning will cause it to veer off the line with unpredictable results when the wheels are locked. Braking in a straight line will stop the car in a shorter distance given the wheels don't lock

    If doc had planned for it, he would have the clutch pushed in while braking (he has that control anyway since the delirean needed to shift gears) to prevent stalling and applied the brakes in a manner so it would stay straight and not lock the wheels.


  8. Addendum, could be regular brakes as well at maxiumum force. No ABS brakes for this car. Either way, the car stalls, but if the front tires weren't spinning on reentry, that means the brakes were applied rather than the emergency ones.

    And I don't know how cars behave, much less rear engined cars, when they stall at 88 mph, but thats my guess onto why the delorean spun with a dead engine.