daangelo29 5 Report post Posted September 27, 2009 I agree with PizzaPlanetTruck. It's better than having no effects. VC's ain't movie-accurate either -- the glows are way off and too big -- so why bother? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PizzaPlanetTruck 0 Report post Posted September 27, 2009 I agree with PizzaPlanetTruck. It's better than having no effects. VC's ain't movie-accurate either -- the glows are way off and too big -- so why bother? Thanks agreeing with me, but how do i extract these files out of an auto installer? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Statler 0 Report post Posted September 27, 2009 use Universal Extractor. It extracts files from installers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PizzaPlanetTruck 0 Report post Posted September 27, 2009 allright, i've downloaded universal extractor, all i have to do is put the right files in the gta img etc. I think i need the coil effect sounds aswell, so could you please give a list of the files i have to add? THX, PPT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 214 Report post Posted September 27, 2009 I thought of something important that I forgot to mention on all the SA installers (this includes the one for the Stargate mod too), in order for the models to successfully install, you need to have a minimum of Microsoft dot net framework 1.1 installed on your computer before you start. This may explain all the issues PPT had with installing the mod. This will be fixed in all future versions of the mod, I will add a front end message so users will know that the installer will not install correctly without Microsoft dot net framework. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bluespace88 9 Report post Posted September 27, 2009 what part of the installer needs the framework? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 214 Report post Posted September 28, 2009 what part of the installer needs the framework? Model installation, the spark console (img.exe) won't run without it. Strangely though the install log gives no errors to indicate a problem, took me a while to figure out what the problem was when I was installing 0.1.3.1 on my cousins machine. I believe this is an SA issue only, since the command line img tool for VC does not require dot net. However if someone knows of another command line img tool for SA (outside of spark console), that does not require dot net framework to be installed, then we can look at swapping that over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Statler 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2009 Why would someone have a version of .NET Framework other than 2.0 or 3.5. I mean it's common sense to update it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bluespace88 9 Report post Posted September 28, 2009 thats the thing. Some people might not have it. GTA after all doesn't use .net, and a stock install of windows with just gta would certainly not have .net Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daangelo29 5 Report post Posted September 28, 2009 Windows Vista and Windows 7 users wouldn't have a problem about .NET Framework. MS updates it for them automatically. And there are some cases when Windows would detect if this program you're running requires a certain version of .NET, and would prompt you about it. I'm not sure about XP, though. Back then, I would update .NET myself if programs like Rise of Nations wouldn't work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bluespace88 9 Report post Posted September 28, 2009 XP doesn't have it installed by default. You have to actually either download it from the ms site or go to windowsuupdate.com and select it as an optional component. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daangelo29 5 Report post Posted September 28, 2009 That explains my last experience with that Rise of Nations problem, as well as another one before that that I can't recall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Statler 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2009 XP doesn't have it installed by default. You have to actually either download it from the ms site or go to windowsuupdate.com and select it as an optional component. When I installed my XP Service Pack 3 OEM CD on my laptop automatic updates prompted me to download and install .NET Framework 3.5. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daangelo29 5 Report post Posted September 28, 2009 That's Service Pack 3. SP1/SP2 or a Windows XP without an SP don't consider it a very important update. Then again, why wouldn't you update it to SP3? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 214 Report post Posted September 28, 2009 Blue, I have good news Redistribution Rights for the .NET Framework Microsoft strongly supports customers in deploying the .NET Framework within their organizations and as part of their software solutions. Which means we can include it with the install file and have it execute if it is not currently installed on the users machine. This should solve a lot of problems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mini-Me 24 Report post Posted September 28, 2009 'Cause there are lazy people . As far as I can remember my SP2 installs of XP always had an older .net installed. @PizzaPlanetTruck: Not every one can help you. Ask once and then WAIT instead of asking multiple times. This annoys me as much as BTTFTIME or Ganeznerd did. Alternatively from Universal Extractor you also can use 7zip, the installer is compressed with LZMA, the format that the guys of 7zip made, that's why you can also use this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 214 Report post Posted September 28, 2009 'Cause there are lazy people . This is also true You have to do everything for people these days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PizzaPlanetTruck 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2009 'Cause there are lazy people . As far as I can remember my SP2 installs of XP always had an older .net installed. @PizzaPlanetTruck: Not every one can help you. Ask once and then WAIT instead of asking multiple times. This annoys me as much as BTTFTIME or Ganeznerd did. Alternatively from Universal Extractor you also can use 7zip, the installer is compressed with LZMA, the format that the guys of 7zip made, that's why you can also use this. I'm sorry. I know just what you mean. 999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999xSORR Y. Now i said enough so i don't need to say it in the Future. Or the past . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bluespace88 9 Report post Posted October 25, 2009 ok, so I wasn't that happy about the coil effects, so I decided to combine both VC and SA, which makes sense (SA represents the neon in rl, VC represents the ILM effects) This is what I got (thank god I saved the old code) Theres a few rough spots, but I can iron them out. The good thing about the combination VC/SA is that, you don't see the mesh anymore when the coils light up. Of course, the bad side, being 2d effects...looks good at some angles, bad at others. Moreso in SA because of the mouse-controlled camera. So I dunno. Its either the coils we have now that look fine from any angle, just without the glowyness Or 2dfx combined with it which looks great in some angles, horrible in others Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
88milesperhour! 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2009 (edited) OMG! O_O It´s better than I expected it to be!!!!! now, you should try to fix the fire Edited October 26, 2009 by Mini-Me No need to quote the whole post! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dragon King 15 Report post Posted October 25, 2009 i love the mixed version. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bluespace88 9 Report post Posted October 25, 2009 Yeah, me too. I hate the 2d effects thing though. Really limits how good it'll look. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bluespace88 9 Report post Posted October 25, 2009 hmm, vc's doesn't seem as bright now... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dragon King 15 Report post Posted October 25, 2009 nope VC's are pretty dull. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bluespace88 9 Report post Posted October 26, 2009 well, these were kinda dull too....at least glow wise. Color I think was much brighter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites